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00:00:44 <Ldp__> I do plan on taking advantage of !scale_denominator! and dropping of type/width/heigth, soon after
00:01:36 <Ldp__> and I've started wondering if it's time to have a planet_osm_buildings
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00:02:05 <jburgess> it could be
00:02:26 <Ldp__> planet_osm_line is getting large
00:02:33 <jburgess> I was wondering if I shoul take the next step of allowing the user to define the tables and which data should go into each in the style file
00:02:34 <Ldp__> _polygon
00:03:01 <Ldp__> one issue I have is with highway/railway=platform, where they wind up in _line, even when they're actually areas
00:03:04 <jburgess> and perhaps an option to simplify the data too
00:03:22 <Ldp__> a more fine grained control over key=value and which table they go would be nice
00:03:40 <jburgess> I have been reluctant to extend the rules to cover key+value pairs but this could be done too
00:05:00 <jburgess> I was feared it would be tricky explain the precedence of the different rules
00:05:12 <Ldp__> most specific wins?
00:05:17 <jburgess> yes
00:05:47 <jburgess> but people would not realise that the generic key-only one would probably be fine for 90% of cases and we would end up with all these unnecessary key/value pairs in the file
00:06:46 <jburgess> thinking "oh.. there is no mention of shop=burger... I better add that one too"
00:06:54 <Ldp__> not a lot of people actually commit to default.style, why would that change?
00:07:19 <jburgess> true, but I'm thinking of the quetions on the ML from people attempting to make changes to their own styles
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00:07:45 <Ldp__> I'd rather not let that stand in the way of innovation
00:07:51 <jburgess> true
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08:23:06 <malthe_> guys
08:23:46 <malthe_> beginner's question: the wms client asks for a single layer, but i'd like to have that layer be comprised of multiple shapefiles.
08:24:03 <malthe_> i can't seem to find out how to accomplish that
08:24:20 <malthe_> some sort of meta-layer, or overlay mechanism
08:24:59 <malthe_> btw i'd like to configure this in pure python
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15:17:08 <shoe> what are the relative advantages/disadvantages to including world_boundaries from shapefiles as opposed to importing them with shp2pgsql?
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15:37:39 <rweait> hmmm missing lwpostgis.sql.  should it be in postgresql-8.4-postgis ?
16:08:56 <rweait> oh, it's called postgis.sql in 1.4.  np
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16:10:46 <harobed_> hi, how can I convert postscript or svg to shape file ?
16:12:04 <harobed_> have you an idea ?
16:12:09 <rweait> HI, harobed_.  I don't know.  Does your postscript file include geographic coordinates?
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16:13:03 <rweait> Perhaps use a photo-warper, then draw manually over the image?
16:13:19 <harobed_> rweait, no, but maybe there are some gis editor with vectorial import function
16:13:37 <harobed_> next, I can adjust (move and scale) my map on real map
16:14:25 <rweait> How much data do you have, and over how much territory?
16:15:33 <harobed_> full story : I have a postscript map, I would like use mapnik to generate tiles image file of this map
16:15:51 <harobed_> to use in google map
16:16:11 <harobed_> I need to position this map over Lorraine (it is french country)
16:18:24 <rweait> harobed_: I think that the "hard part" here is that the map data (geographic coordinates) was turned into a picture of the data (postscript vectors).  When that happened, you lost the geographic coordinates.
16:18:41 <rweait> To use it as map data again, you'll need to get the geographic coordinates back/
16:19:13 <rweait> Otherwise, you only have a picture of a map, and you'll not be able to extract coordinates.
16:19:25 <harobed_> rweait, ok
16:19:53 <harobed_> there are a editor tools which can import background image ?
16:20:06 <harobed_> to draw trace over it ?
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16:20:13 <rweait> Sure.
16:20:33 <harobed_> merkaartor ?
16:20:51 <harobed_> I don't found the feature in this tools
16:20:53 <rweait> And map warping tools that let you choose a couple of reference points, and warp the ps to the coordinate system.
16:22:09 <harobed_> rweait, do you knows the name of a tools to do that ?
16:22:21 <rweait> on what OS?
16:22:29 <harobed_> I'm on ubuntu
16:22:48 <rweait> The warping, I'm unsure of.
16:22:56 <rweait> josm will import background images
16:23:10 <rweait> I think most/all of the desktop GIS will also.
16:23:27 <rweait> OpenJUMP, Grass, Qgis, etc.
16:23:42 <rweait> gdalwarp, perhaps?
16:23:57 <rweait> There is a web service for this I think?
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16:24:24 <harobed_> I try Qgis
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17:44:24 <funqshun> hello, i'm interested in doing alternative projections in mapnik, is there a link somewhere to this?
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18:43:43 <shoe> I'm importing contours using gdal_contour to create shapefiles and shp2pgsql -a to append the data to a 'contours' table...
18:44:18 <shoe> If I accidentally ran the shp2pgsql twice on the same shapefile, would anything bad happen?
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19:04:58 <funqshun> no one?
19:13:32 <dkb> People are here but I myself don't know the answer
19:14:36 <dkb> if you hang around long enough or come back later one of the more experienced users I'm sure would be able to help
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21:59:33 <StormTide> wb springmeyer ;)
22:00:06 <springmeyer> hey
22:07:17 <StormTide> can i pick your brain for a couple mins? ive been going through a bunch of ecdis systems, the source for some gis apps etc, trying to grok the key math to go from wgs84 to pixels ... seems like theres usually a stop over in UTM ... any idea why that is?
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