#mapnik log: Tuesday 19, January 2010

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09:09:52 <nikq> Mapnik Trac: Changeset [1576]: Removing obsolete branch (moved to tags/release-0.7.0) | http://trac.mapnik.org/changeset/1576
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10:26:26 <aliceinwire> how i can use mod_tile ?
10:58:09 <artem> aliceinwire: hello, as I mentioned already you need to read "readme.txt" file which explains step required to setup working tile server.
10:58:30 <artem> I meant to say 'steps' not 'step'
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11:31:44 <aliceinwire> how i  can insert gis in mysql
11:31:46 <aliceinwire> mysql gis?
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13:24:44 <Dominic847> Hey guys! How is it going?
13:24:58 <Dominic847> Question for ya... What is the maximum zoom level for mapnik?
13:25:13 <Dominic847> i m tlaking about the setting in "generate_tiles.py"
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13:44:30 <artem_> Dominic847: you should be able to adjust gererat_tiles.py to handle any reasonable zoom level you like
13:44:44 <Dominic847> ah... ok
13:45:18 <Dominic847> i thought there was a limitation somehow...
13:45:20 <artem_> just make sure that GoogleProjection can handle it
13:46:22 <Dominic847> --btw... I m still missing the SLES 10 "HowTo" on http://trac.mapnik.org/wiki/LinuxInstallation
13:46:30 <Dominic847> ;)
13:46:32 <artem_> what zoom levels are you having in mind ? >20
13:47:18 <Dominic847> nothing specific, I was just being curious
13:47:29 <artem_> k
13:47:43 <Dominic847> so far level 16 works fine for me...
13:48:12 <Dominic847> took me more than 24 hours to render "Germany"
13:48:37 <artem_> well, Germany is a relatively big country
13:48:47 <artem_> and has lots of `OSM data :D
13:48:54 <Dominic847> i know... that s good tho!
13:49:18 <artem_> are utilising multiple cores ?
13:49:26 <Dominic847> sure... 8 cores
13:49:33 <artem_> good
13:49:39 <Dominic847> CPU idle time = 0 % !!!!!! :)
13:49:48 <artem_> sounds good to me:)
13:50:06 <Dominic847> i know... it s getting warm in our data center ;)
13:51:41 *** artem_ changed the topic to: "Mapnik - C++/Python Toolkit | Mapnik 0.7.0 release today!"
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15:26:41 <myselfhimself> hi
15:26:50 <friism> hello
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15:28:26 <friism> I've gotten the tutorial 1 example to render using a snadinavian export of OSM imported into Postgis
15:28:45 <friism> but I can't get it to render when using xml style
15:29:15 <friism> this is the simple stuff that works: http://dpaste.com/147443/
15:30:04 <friism> this is the code that uses a xml stylesheet: http://dpaste.com/147444/
15:30:36 <friism> .. and stylesheet: http://dpaste.com/147445/
15:31:05 <friism> I do not get an error, it just renders a blank map...
15:32:12 <friism> I'm pretty sure the postgres stuff works since messing 'table' in styles.xml causes an explicit error
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15:33:14 <friism> any clues as to how to debug problems like this one?
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15:46:25 <Ldp__> friism: rgb(50%,50%,50%) ?
15:46:28 <Ldp__> try 50,50,50
15:48:01 <Ldp__> also, you have estimate_extent=false, but have extent commented out
15:49:17 <friism> I found it, apparently a bbox is required
15:49:43 <friism> so I have to m.zoom_to_box
15:49:55 <Ldp__> yeah
15:49:57 <friism> with a envelope in the right datum
15:50:17 <friism> :-)
15:51:35 <friism> can I ask why it doesn't work with estimate_extent=true and no bbox?
15:57:54 <Ldp__> you always have to tell the bbox to render, else it won't know what to do
15:59:27 <friism> I see, that's cool
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17:12:37 <myselfhimself> hello
17:12:41 <myselfhimself> I have a little big progme
17:12:46 <myselfhimself> problem
17:12:52 <myselfhimself> my map is full blue now
17:13:17 <myselfhimself> could someone try to render a bbox for me if I give postgis hostname, login& passe tc?
17:13:19 <myselfhimself> etc?
17:14:05 <myselfhimself> it should render something out of the default osm.xml (in new format / 0.8)
17:14:35 <myselfhimself> I can give anyone that osm_new.xml file
17:14:38 <myselfhimself> and my tiles rendering script
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17:34:18 <myselfhimself> this is generate_tiles.py (actually a modified version of this script)'s output log
17:34:20 <myselfhimself> http://dpaste.com/147518/
17:34:32 <myselfhimself> I can't manage to have something rendered after level 22
17:38:07 <myselfhimself> here's with a bit of python script from generate_tiles.py
17:38:09 <myselfhimself> http://dpaste.com/147519/
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18:51:51 <myselfhimself> I've solved my problem using the sample script back again and modifying it again
18:51:55 <myselfhimself> thanks see you
18:52:31 <myselfhimself> generate_tiles.py is cool... but it's a bit "stupid" because it doesn't overwrite obsolete tiles/existing tiles... or I'm mistaken
18:52:36 <myselfhimself> see you
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18:57:56 <nikq> Mapnik Trac: WindowsInstallation edited | http://trac.mapnik.org/wiki/WindowsInstallation?version=31
18:59:03 <springmeyer> if anyone has access to winXP,vista, or windows7 and could run through http://trac.mapnik.org/wiki/WindowsInstallation
18:59:09 <springmeyer> to test, that would be great
18:59:59 <nikq> Mapnik Trac: MapnikReleases edited | http://trac.mapnik.org/wiki/MapnikReleases?version=3
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19:05:17 <nikq> Mapnik Trac: MapnikReleaseSteps edited | http://trac.mapnik.org/wiki/MapnikReleaseSteps?version=32
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19:09:22 <nikq> Mapnik Trac: MapnikReleaseSteps edited | http://trac.mapnik.org/wiki/MapnikReleaseSteps?version=33
19:09:32 <nikq> Mapnik Trac: MapnikInstallation edited | http://trac.mapnik.org/wiki/MapnikInstallation?version=20
19:11:14 <nikq> Mapnik Trac: MacInstallation edited | http://trac.mapnik.org/wiki/MacInstallation?version=91
19:12:16 <nikq> Mapnik Trac: UbuntuInstallation edited | http://trac.mapnik.org/wiki/UbuntuInstallation?version=49
19:12:56 <nikq> Mapnik Trac: UbuntuInstallationOld edited | http://trac.mapnik.org/wiki/UbuntuInstallationOld?version=7
19:13:17 <nikq> Mapnik Trac: DebianInstallation edited | http://trac.mapnik.org/wiki/DebianInstallation?version=8
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19:16:00 <nikq> Mapnik Trac: MacInstallationSource edited | http://trac.mapnik.org/wiki/MacInstallationSource?version=11
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19:17:03 <nikq> Mapnik Trac: MacInstallationSource edited | http://trac.mapnik.org/wiki/MacInstallationSource?version=12
19:18:35 <nikq> Mapnik Trac: MapnikReleaseSteps edited | http://trac.mapnik.org/wiki/MapnikReleaseSteps?version=34
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19:31:21 <artem> springmeyer: ok, I fixed _MACOSX  + removed ref to INSTALL in README.txt and uploaded to berlios.de:mapnik-0.7.0-win32-py25_26.zip
19:31:35 <springmeyer> awesome artem
19:31:36 <artem> good catches!
19:31:41 <springmeyer> np
19:32:17 <springmeyer> artem, do you know.... the difference at berlios or prdownload... and download?
19:32:32 <springmeyer> 'pr' is the landing page it seems
19:32:46 <springmeyer> do we have to route through that page to get stats?
19:33:43 <artem> not sure, but would be safe to route through http://prdownload.berlios.de
19:33:47 <artem> i guess
19:34:03 <springmeyer> k, thats what I am doing
19:34:06 <artem> looks like load balancing
19:34:12 <springmeyer> ah
19:34:24 <springmeyer> its just if anyone tries to wget or curl -O that url it fails
19:35:28 <springmeyer> artem did you change the f: --> c: ?
19:35:33 <artem> i see, somehow stats worked with wget/curl in the past - someone downloaded like >100,000 copies one day
19:35:41 <nikq> Mapnik Trac: WindowsInstallation edited | http://trac.mapnik.org/wiki/WindowsInstallation?version=32
19:35:54 <artem> doh .. let me change it
19:38:13 <artem> I agree f:/ might freak out windows users
19:38:31 <springmeyer> okay
19:38:33 <springmeyer> well I added f: in the docs (that the user needs to change)
19:38:39 <springmeyer> but would like to remove that if possible :)
19:38:48 <artem> sure...
19:39:08 * artem uploading ...
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19:40:57 <nikq> Mapnik Trac: WindowsInstallation edited | http://trac.mapnik.org/wiki/WindowsInstallation?version=33
19:42:18 <nikq> Mapnik Trac: WindowsInstallation edited | http://trac.mapnik.org/wiki/WindowsInstallation?version=34
19:43:39 <artem> ok, could you quickly check : mapnik-0.7.0-win32-py25_26.zip
19:45:07 <springmeyer> okay, downloading
19:46:01 <artem> springmeyer: demo/scripts ??
19:46:22 <springmeyer> must be typo
19:46:45 <springmeyer> `MapnikReleaseSteps
19:46:45 <nikq> http://trac.mapnik.org/wiki/MapnikReleaseSteps
19:47:18 * springmeyer will fix
19:47:19 <springmeyer> nice catch
19:47:46 <artem> what about : Updated Python bindings (__init__.py) step ?
19:47:54 <artem> not sure I understand ?
19:48:10 <nikq> Mapnik Trac: MapnikReleaseSteps edited | http://trac.mapnik.org/wiki/MapnikReleaseSteps?version=35
19:48:28 <springmeyer> you don't it
19:48:32 <springmeyer> er
19:48:34 <springmeyer> you've done it :)
19:48:39 <artem> ok
19:48:43 <springmeyer> what is in the win32 site-packages/mapnik/__init__.py looks like latest
19:48:55 * artem checking..
19:49:04 <springmeyer> plus removed unix specific ctypes stuff, which is great
19:49:20 <springmeyer> artem: jef at http://norbit.de has also just packaged the win32 stuff for osgeo4w
19:49:24 * springmeyer testing that right now too
19:49:37 <springmeyer> (based off your binary from today)
19:49:48 <artem> excellent
19:49:48 <springmeyer> so I should say 're-packaged'
19:51:34 <artem> springmeyer: http://dpaste.com/147598/
19:51:39 <springmeyer> ya, the folks at gis-lab in russia also did the same, but a day later than jürgen at norbit did
19:52:03 <springmeyer> artem: looks good
19:52:11 <springmeyer> def register_plugins() confirms we are using latest
19:52:20 <artem> there are couple typos but no show-stoppers
19:52:26 <springmeyer> oh?
19:52:30 <artem> libmapnik.dll should be mapnik.sll
19:52:33 <artem> mapnik.dll
19:52:34 <artem> :)
19:52:42 <springmeyer> ah, good catch :)
19:52:50 <springmeyer> can fix in trunk
19:52:57 <artem> good plan!
19:54:22 <springmeyer> what was the other typo?
19:54:27 * springmeyer is about to commit
19:54:52 <artem> nope just that one (ready to commit, too) :)
19:54:56 <artem> you got ahead
19:55:01 <springmeyer> he he
19:55:02 <springmeyer> k
19:55:02 <artem> you go
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19:56:19 <nikq> Mapnik Trac: Changeset [1577]: fix typos in __init__.__doc__ of lib names on windows | http://trac.mapnik.org/changeset/1577
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20:02:04 <nikq> Mapnik Trac: MapnikReleaseSteps edited | http://trac.mapnik.org/wiki/MapnikReleaseSteps?version=36
20:03:36 <nikq> Mapnik Trac: MapnikReleaseSteps edited | http://trac.mapnik.org/wiki/MapnikReleaseSteps?version=37
20:05:08 <nikq> Mapnik Trac: MapnikReleaseSteps edited | http://trac.mapnik.org/wiki/MapnikReleaseSteps?version=38
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20:20:11 <springmeyer> artem: yes, yes, yes
20:20:26 <springmeyer> artem: osgeo4w mapnik 0.7.0 works like a charm
20:20:45 <artem> cool
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20:23:12 <springmeyer> artem: nice job remembering the shape memory mapped flag thingy:)
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20:23:28 <springmeyer> means the windows build still works in Qnik, like 0.6.1!
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20:23:46 <artem> ah, sure
20:24:09 <artem> is there 64-bit Qnik ?
20:25:06 <springmeyer> no
20:25:15 <springmeyer> well, actually maybe
20:25:31 <springmeyer> but I'm only aware of QGIS mac builds which still have to run 32 bit
20:25:42 <springmeyer> because QT is not yet 64 bit (on mac at least)
20:26:05 <springmeyer> racicot: are you running QGIS 64 bit on your windows machine?
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20:26:22 * artem running 64-bit qt4
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20:26:38 * artem on mac
20:26:38 <springmeyer> artem: self compiled?
20:26:58 <artem> hmm.. don't remember :)
20:27:05 <artem> i think from *.dmg
20:27:33 <springmeyer> hmm, cool
20:27:51 <racicot> springmeyer: none of my machines are 64 bit
20:28:04 <springmeyer> racicot: oh, okay, thx
20:28:13 <artem> yes, you're right I built it - qt-everywhere-opensource-src-4.6.0-tp1
20:28:29 <springmeyer> artem: Qt is only 32 on my system:
20:28:33 <springmeyer>  file /Library/Frameworks/QtGui.framework/QtGui
20:28:35 <springmeyer> artem: ah, okay
20:29:03 <artem> ./configure -arch x86_64 -prefix /opt/qt4 -sdk /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.6.sdk -nomake demos -nomake examples -confirm-license "$@"
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20:30:04 <springmeyer> cool
20:30:27 <springmeyer> ya, its an emerging problem for any mac users that have new machines and
20:30:38 <springmeyer> install mapnik from source then try to use with QGIS
20:30:49 <springmeyer> as mapnik will build x86_64 by default
20:31:06 <artem> well, I'm sure qgis will catch up soon
20:31:14 <springmeyer> we likely need to add an easy option to build 32+64
20:31:17 <springmeyer> hopefully
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20:31:40 <artem> yes
20:31:48 <springmeyer> seth who does mapping for flickr hit that problem: http://mojodna.net/2009/12/05/the-os-x-spatial-stack.html
20:35:49 <artem> very  good
20:54:01 <springmeyer> artem: I'm all tested, anything more to do?
20:55:11 <artem> all good here, too  /me about to write mapnik.org news
20:57:01 <artem> lets make lots of noise this time :P
20:57:27 <artem> would you post to mapnik.org, too ?
20:58:49 <springmeyer> yes, we should make noise
20:59:01 <springmeyer> and yes I would be happy to post too
20:59:12 <springmeyer> I likely won't have time today, but could try tomorrow
20:59:41 <artem> would be fantastic
20:59:50 <springmeyer> okay
21:00:05 <springmeyer> so you going to annouce in news post today still?
21:00:21 <artem> springmeyer: yep, I'd like to - can't wait
21:00:50 <springmeyer> great
21:00:54 <springmeyer> go for it :)
21:01:05 <springmeyer> you should be able to update the 'release' model in django and all the mapnik.org links will update
21:01:12 <springmeyer> even the one to the download graphic
21:01:23 <artem> sure, I saw it - great
21:01:35 <springmeyer> cool
21:01:51 <artem> btw, i uploaded images for 0.8.0 0.9.0 and 1.0.0 releases for later use
21:02:22 <springmeyer> ha ha! smart
21:02:37 * artem heads to make a coffee ..
21:02:43 <springmeyer> cool, me too
21:03:42 * springmeyer realizes we could use a mac link on the home page, but that's not essential
21:05:58 <springmeyer> cool, artem looks like mapnik works on 64 bit windows7, see osm-dev list :)
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21:16:42 <artem> great, not clear if mapnik is 32 or 64-bit , though - still very cool
21:19:24 <springmeyer> maybe running 32 bit... on 64 machine, would is cool enough :)
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21:33:02 <artem> springmeyer: mac link would be extremely cool. May be tomorrow with your follow up on OS X bin?
21:33:27 <springmeyer> cool, sounds good
21:33:43 <artem> ok, lets start pressing buttons ...
21:34:12 * springmeyer ended up editing a few flag pages
21:34:17 <springmeyer> flag/flat
21:34:22 * springmeyer coffee
21:34:48 <artem> berlios .. ok
21:37:12 <artem> mapnik.org - oops
21:37:37 <artem> springmeyer: http://prdownload.berlios.de/mapnik/mapnik-0.7.0-win32-py25.zip - not quite correct link
21:37:47 <artem> where can I edit it ?
21:37:59 <springmeyer> oh, shoot
21:38:28 <springmeyer> django model methods are likely making wrong guess?
21:38:32 <springmeyer> ah, ya they are...
21:38:34 <artem> can I just 'update.." in db ?
21:39:04 <springmeyer> no
21:39:10 <springmeyer> here I will fix now...
21:39:19 <artem> k
21:40:00 <springmeyer> I set the logic up poorly
21:40:15 <springmeyer> for some reason I prepared it to dowload py25/py26 separately
21:40:32 * springmeyer fixing and will svn ci, and svn up on mapnik.org box
21:40:58 <artem> thanks!
21:44:47 <artem> springmeyer: All News : 2010 seems to point to 2009?
21:45:01 <springmeyer> okay, will fix
21:45:21 <springmeyer> heh, nice catch
21:45:23 <springmeyer> fixed
21:45:29 <springmeyer> will commit both fixes in a second
21:45:49 <artem> great
21:47:42 <nikq> Mapnik Trac: Changeset [1578]: mapnik.org: fix windows download link logic and correct link to 2010  ... | http://trac.mapnik.org/changeset/1578
21:48:46 <springmeyer> okay
21:48:49 <springmeyer> I did
21:48:55 <springmeyer> cd ../artem/mapnik_org
21:48:57 <springmeyer> svn up
21:48:58 <springmeyer> sudo apache2ctl restart
21:49:07 <springmeyer> should be live, need to test again
21:49:40 <artem> works great!!
21:50:05 <springmeyer> cool, I'll need to update again when we add python 3.0 support ;)
21:54:54 <artem> sure, boost_python supports py3k
21:55:00 <artem> now
21:56:01 <nikq> Mapnik Trac: Ticket #496 (Move trac.mapnik.org database from sqlite to postgres) created | http://trac.mapnik.org/ticket/496
21:56:09 <springmeyer> artem: yes
21:59:34 <nikq> Mapnik Trac: Ticket #489 (Sync CHANGELOG in trunk after tagging 0.7.0) updated | http://trac.mapnik.org/ticket/489#comment:1
22:04:44 <artem> springmeyer: ok, it's live !!! thanks! I updated freshmeat and freegis , will do more tomorrow morning
22:05:01 <springmeyer> great!
22:05:31 * springmeyer pops cork, hands artem one'
22:05:53 * artem cheers to springmeyer
22:06:42 <racicot> cheers to both of you ... congrats!
22:07:37 <artem> cheers :)
22:07:42 <springmeyer> cheers
22:10:34 <nikq> Mapnik Trac: Release0.7.0 edited | http://trac.mapnik.org/wiki/Release0.7.0?version=2
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22:51:47 <nikq> Mapnik Trac: HaitiStyles edited | http://trac.mapnik.org/wiki/HaitiStyles?version=2
22:53:08 <nikq> Mapnik Trac: HaitiStyles edited | http://trac.mapnik.org/wiki/HaitiStyles?version=3
22:54:43 <Ldp__> congrats on 0.7.0 release!
22:55:33 <springmeyer> Ldp__: congrats for inspiring us to work on Mapnik!
22:55:51 <nikq> Mapnik Trac: HaitiStyles edited | http://trac.mapnik.org/wiki/HaitiStyles?version=4
22:55:52 <Ldp__> congrats for putting up with my complaints and requests :)
22:56:00 <springmeyer> ! :)
22:56:28 * springmeyer wished you had complained about using TrueType fonts for symbols!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
22:57:25 <Ldp__> however, I don't wish that the Haiti quake had happened sooner, so that crisismappers mail on TrueType font symbols had surfaced earlier
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