00:46:57 <w0lfie_> Anyone know how freetype finds its fonts? mapnik's complaining
00:55:22 <w0lfie_> hm well that explains that
00:59:51 <w0lfie_> freetype doesn't think i have any fonts installed... nice
01:01:00 <w0lfie_> ah you need to pass the full name
01:13:32 <w0lfie_> Well maybe someone can tell me what I'm doing wrong, http://pastebin.com/m2cde8528
01:14:00 <w0lfie_> Points appear, just no text
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01:25:48 <w0lfie_> dane can you take a look at this for me http://pastebin.com/m2cde8528
01:25:53 <w0lfie_> text not appearing
01:26:09 <springmeyer> hey
01:26:13 * springmeyer looks
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01:26:38 <w0lfie_> here's how the flex app is shaping up with mapnik + pure wms as backend -> http://oreo.entropy.net/iracambi/
01:26:46 <w0lfie_> esri's api.. hehe
01:26:59 <springmeyer> t = TextSymbolizer('name', 'DejaVu Sans Book', 12, Color('black')) -- > t = TextSymbolizer('NAME', 'DejaVu Sans Book', 12, Color('black'))
01:27:06 <springmeyer> #199
01:27:07 <nikq> Ticket #199: "Shapefile reader should look for file=""name.shp""", http://trac.mapnik.org/ticket/199
01:28:19 <springmeyer> thats very nice w0lfie_
01:28:22 <w0lfie_> no difference with s/name/NAME/
01:28:59 <w0lfie_> the perf is pretty good with fcgi
01:30:16 <springmeyer> good, so mapnik wms is serving which layers?
01:30:29 * springmeyer looks at pastebin again
01:30:42 <w0lfie_> everything except the landsat/srtm
01:30:50 <w0lfie_> there are more layers in my local version.. only a couple in that one
01:30:56 <w0lfie_> just a bunch of shapefiles basically
01:31:19 <w0lfie_> probably be a sql of some sort later.. just figuring out what's best for this nonprofit
01:32:00 <w0lfie_> probably will cut out the landsat and tile it so its faster rather than grabbing from jpl's wms.. and we're going to buy some ikonos probably
01:32:16 <w0lfie_> but yeah.. i'm liking mapnik
01:33:03 <springmeyer> cool
01:33:23 <w0lfie_> can it read VPF?
01:33:37 <crschmidt> ogr can read vpf
01:33:37 <springmeyer> do your labels show up if you turn off the points?
01:33:39 <crschmidt> to some extent
01:33:45 <crschmidt> so 'probably, but it might be hard'
01:34:01 <crschmidt> and you're probably best converting your vpf to something more sane...
01:34:03 <w0lfie_> probably easier to convert to shapefiles or postgis then
01:34:04 <w0lfie_> yeah
01:34:24 <w0lfie_> well if i use it at work it'll probably be for doing all the uvmap/ufd/vmap/etc
01:35:12 <w0lfie_> yeah turning off the points works
01:35:20 <springmeyer> okay, then do:
01:35:25 <springmeyer> t.allow_overlap = True
01:35:42 <w0lfie_> perfect
01:36:26 <w0lfie_> have you seen the labelling work with diacritics? is that a font choice issue?
01:36:33 <springmeyer> w0lfie_: and try:
01:36:34 <crschmidt> Yes
01:36:39 <springmeyer> t.displacement(5,5)
01:36:59 <w0lfie_> any suggestions for fonts?
01:38:20 <crschmidt> I think most people use the ttf-dejavu fonts
01:38:29 <w0lfie_> that's what i'm using
01:38:29 <springmeyer> anything ttf or otf
01:38:42 <w0lfie_> get question marks for diacritics though; wonder if it's related to reading from a dbf
01:38:46 <crschmidt> w0lfie_: if you're having problems with things looking like boxes, you might be having encoding problems
01:38:49 <crschmidt> almost definitely
01:38:52 <w0lfie_> yeah
01:39:00 <crschmidt> I'd recommend converting to a postgis database
01:39:06 <crschmidt> and seeing if you still have the same problems
01:39:06 <springmeyer> w0lfie_:  dejavu should work if the shp encoding it right
01:39:12 <w0lfie_> diacritics come through in globalmapper
01:39:26 <crschmidt> the encoding aspects of shapes are unfortunately terribly defined
01:39:33 <w0lfie_> yes, they are
01:39:36 <crschmidt> (in other words, not at all)
01:39:42 <crschmidt> so OGR probably can't understand what globalmapper is doing
01:39:44 <w0lfie_> had a lot of issues with vietnam data before
01:42:58 <w0lfie_> i actually got this data originally as a kml heh
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01:57:48 <w0lfie_> anyway, this is some good software def.
02:10:28 <scruggs> is there any documentation for using the new sqlite plugin?
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13:58:24 <hades__> hi, i have a general question about the features of mapnik
14:00:29 <hades__> is it possible to check if a given coordinate is in a specific layer (country)?
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14:12:17 <hades__> okay, i refine this question: is there a way to check if a point is in a polygon?
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14:45:22 <ninja_> hey hades__ mapnik itself cant do that as far as i know
14:45:44 <ninja_> the easiest way to do this is probably store the data in postgresql
14:45:51 <hades__> hi ninja
14:45:56 <ninja_> and use sql statements to access the data with postgis methods
14:46:13 <ninja_> oops sorry have to run now , talk to you later hades__
14:46:20 <hades__> kk
14:46:23 <hades__>  ty
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17:06:47 <joeh_> Is there some sort of documentation I can find that will teach a newbie how to use Mapnik?
17:12:50 <joeh_> I guess more precisely how to include shapefiles in the mix with my PostGres data.
17:43:14 <cmarqu> Of the input formats understood my Mapnik (SVN), which would be the easiest to modify by hand or generate by a script? Shapefiles?
17:43:53 <cmarqu> I was thinking of constructing a map legend.
18:06:36 <cmarqu> Hmm, I suppose I could try nickw's easymapnik or whatever it was called.
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18:57:47 <crschmidt> cmarqu: PostGIS is probably easiest to script.
18:59:05 <cmarqu> Hmm. I suppose the OSM format has advantages in that there are editors that I can use in addition.
18:59:21 <crschmidt> Well
18:59:25 <crschmidt> There are many shapefile editing tools
19:00:15 <cmarqu> Ok, then s/that I can use/that I know how to use/ :)
19:04:37 <crschmidt> and typically are as good, or better, than OSM editing tools for a lot of tasks, in my experience, for something like creating input to mapik
19:08:17 <cmarqu> I just remembered that you said the encoding of shp is undefined - if I *make* everything to be UTF-8, that won't be a problem though, right?
19:08:36 <cmarqu> Because I would want to have localised legends.
19:13:02 <crschmidt> Er
19:13:11 <crschmidt> I'm not entirely sure how you plan to go from a shapefile to a legend
19:13:42 <crschmidt> 'make everything be utf-8' ... well, there are 3 different ways of encoding that a shapefile is 'utf-8', and depending no whether your tools agree on the same one, then that might be a problem.
19:13:43 <cmarqu> I would create a fake map with the features I want to show and then render it.
19:14:15 <crschmidt> However, it's likely that Mapnik and any shapefile creation tool you could create would be speaking the same languag,e unless you're using a proprietary product
19:15:51 <cmarqu> That would work then.
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19:45:23 <CIA-23> mapnik-utils: cmarqu42 * r578 /sandbox/cascadenik/hike_n_bike/ (7 files): Support mode signs of the Dresdner Heide.
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23:53:37 <nikq> Mapnik Trac: Changeset [984]: scons: warn if the SYSTEM_FONTS directory does not exist | http://trac.mapnik.org/changeset/984